Its a 2 man scramble event (yes, doubles...but the organizers are ball golfers so they labeled it in the ball golf way) I only found out about it late last week, but shame on me for not posting. Heres a link to the info/registration page. http://www.acu.edu/campusoffices/residencelife/Forms/Res_Life_Open.html
Im told the 10:00 slot is already full, so dont sign up for that one. You just have to pre-register....pay the day of.
Our next board meeting is Nov 9 where we will select the logo and start to firm up plans for a membership event. I dont know for sure yet, but I believe the membership event will be Fri. Jan 1, 2010. We usually have a pick-up mini that day anyway...just texting, calling each other the day of and get 15-20 show up. So, the locals seem to be in favor of the date. I'll know more next week...
The website is getting an overhaul! Well, really its being rebuilt on a totally different platform (Drupal, for those interested). Its a content management system (much like what this site is built on) and should be up by Jan. 1. This will allow much greater flexabiliy and be easier to update.
We met with the Parks Dept. a few weeks ago and the concrete tee pads at Will Hair are a GO for this winter. Alan put some home made tee signs in the ground, so tee pads will almost complete the course.
I am going to get Mayor's Cup pictures together to get on the Mayors Cup website for next week. There's plenty of people saying "Go Warlocks!" to every Abilene team member that lost...hehe. I think we're getting the point across! There will be some changes in the team makeup and formats for next year, but it will still be competative and probably better attended. I think everyone really had a good time with a team disc golf event.
btw, let us know when you guys decide on a membership date. I dont want to have a conflict like we did last year.
I sorry...but that's is the worst news I have heard in a while. Wilhair has so much more potential and pouring concrete teepads will just ruin it.IMO and alot of others in Abilene the new holes just plan suck, but I guess as always my opinion doesnt matter, but it is just a shame that we have to settle with Alan's crappy layout, instead of making it something special. Well, I guess it is not all crappy...hole 4(old 3's long) is a really good hole and all of them could be that good with a little work and a good vision. Oh well, I guess it is about par for Abilene.
There will be some changes in the team makeup and formats for next year, but it will still be competative and probably better attended. I think everyone really had a good time with a team disc golf event.
I've got a suggestion! Make a 4 man(or more) team divsion(maybe even add a womens spot for one division)...that way I can be on the top Warlock Team. Would be really hard(meaning I won't do it) for me to take someone off the winning team to put myself back on it. Since I feel they deserve a chance to repeat....but if you add a 4th memeber I can be back on it.....p...p...pplease >:D<
Other suggestions would be a format change...like I posted earlier something with singles AND doubles, with some best, worst, or alternate shot. Just my opinion of course...but I think this would make things even more fun, competative, and more team oriented. Crazy things can happen during alternate and worst shot, plus it can add some stratagy to it.
Jroc wrote ...
btw, let us know when you guys decide on a membership date. I dont want to have a conflict like we did last year.
We are changing things up this year with our membership stuff. We are holding elections at the Ice Bowl, and re-upping for memberships will start 01/01/10 instead of running Feb. to Feb each year. As it stands right now we will not be holding the Annual Night Glow Membership Drive that has conflicted with you guys Ice Bowl the last couple of years. If we do decide to do something along the lines of a "membership party" which was talked about at the last meeting, we will steer clear of you guys Ice Bowl.
I sorry...but that's is the worst news I have heard in a while. Wilhair has so much more potential and pouring concrete teepads will just ruin it.
I won't go as far to say it's the worst idea I have heard...And of course most people know I am not a fan of concrete tees anyway, but he is right about once you pour you are locked in. If there is one good thing about the lake course, it's that it changes up a little every year. Even a 5 foot move of a teebox can be a good change for a year or two. Especially with multiple pin placements.
It's not the concrete tees that I am opposed to... it is the placement of them. Most all of the new placements just plan suck and add nothing to the course. Wilhair just has alot more potential and you are right once you pour them it is done with. Maybe get someone that has a idea about designing a course and have them consult about it, instead of having Alan and Santoes screw it up. Hell, even Jimi had a better layout then them. But, that just goes back to other peoples opinions that dont matter to the ADGA and their closed meetings.
I haven't seen the new Will Hair but cut the ADGA some slack. They have done wonders at Cal Young and are spending money for course up keep. Better to see money being spent then sit there and rot. I agree with open meetings, but if you have topics that need an answer that day, you would never get one. Trust me, I have been on the board and we had an open discusion for everybody and ALL we got out of it was last minute ideas and no decisions after the board had been working on things for months.
Well, slack is not what they are going to get from me. When they put a boycott out on the tourney I ran in order to raise money for the new course. Why would they do that? I dont know, but I was trying to put forth a little effort in order to get more funds for Cal Young west and Alan tells me that he is going to sponser the pumpkins for the tourney on behalf of the ADGA, only to withdraw his sponsorship. The bad thing is he didnt even tell me he wasnt going to. Instead, he just told everyone to boycott it. Totally messed up if you ask me. Anyways over $500 dollars in prizes went to 7 people who had a blast and were very appriciative of my efforts and who couldnt understand why a tournament that was benefiting everyone would be boycotted by the ADGA. Open meetings is the way to go and things should be put up for a vote and voted on by board members. ADGA doesnt hav e board members, nothing is put up to a vote. The desicions are made by two people Pres and Vice Pres. Which those two positions should be titles only and there in order to announce what they board members have decided upon with their votes. That is how most clubs are run, not by two people with no members in the club. Yes the tee signs are nice( even though if you get lost at Cal Young you shoundnt be allowed to golf), hole 9 is nice(done before any ADGA was formed)and is credited all to Pete by the ADGA. Even though it was my idea and I started it and I took Pete by the hand and showed him what I was doing, then he helped me do it, only to camp out there for the next week in order to take credit for it in order to get his votes. Votes in which wifes and children were allowed to vote???Should of been members only, but a vote took place before members were taken...also backwards if you ask me. Donavan, you guys in the concho valley have things going good for you all and that's great that you all can work together, but here seems that people just want to work apart without everyone having any say.
I don't think non-members should be allowed to vote. They can share their ideas and complaints to members and let the members bring it up in a meeting. Sounds like there is a split in Abilene which is a shame. We have the same problem here. Discgolfers that don't like other discgolfers, disagree , or simply rebel against the CVDGA. Its a shame, everyone can have their opinion, but to completely rebel against anything associated with the board including the BIG tourney's is very disappointing.
Your right they shouldnt be allowed to vote, but in Abilene anyone was allowed to vote and ADGA has no members, just people with bogus titles, very unofficial if you ask me. I don't have any personal problems with anyone in abilene. I would just like to see things done right, instead of being very onesided and without a group concensus.
Let me ask you this... who votes on the issues in the CVDGA?
It is also funny how when they voted for those elected, that it was a quite one day vote, but when they wanted to vote for the logo the vote has lasted for weeks now. Which is more important in order to get everyones vote? I would say the first. That way everyone has a chance to vote, but that would mean that they might not get the votes that they wanted. I was on the ballot and didnt even know until I showed up to the mini that they were voting that day.
We have a membership drive every new year to get new members and renew current members. At that time we have elections for Pres. VP Sec Treas internet upkeep and course maint. These positions are open and anyone can run for them. Once the members are elected, they are the ones who vote and make decisions. All members and nonmembers can give their ideas, opinions, and complaints to board members.
I don't think non-members should be allowed to vote.
I also agree with this...only "dues paid" club members should be allowed to vote for board members.
With the CVDGA, the board members do all the voting on issues. They were elected for a reason, and that reason is not just to do all the work for everyone else. It's because they were tursted and elected to keep the club going in the right direction. All club members are encouraged to give their ideas and complaints a like to a current board member to be brought up at the next meeting. If the issue is big enough, or needs to be presented by that person that is also an option. But having 30 people at every meeting and trying to get through an agenda is never a good idea unless you have about 8 hours to devote to the meeting and want to get nothing done.
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Was the tourney you tried to put on through the club, or was it something you were doing on your own?
I am not going to get into a message board mud slinging contest again, but I will respond to Brandons comments.
For the last year, interest has been building to re-form the club. I stated many, many times at the minis that I had no problem with that...even welcomed it. But, I was NOT going to be the one to put it together. Somebody or bodies had to step up. So Alan and Brad stepped up and started handing out nomination ballots for "would be" officers this summer. Alan created a ballot with all the nominations (at least the ones that agreed to the nominations) plus the club name choices and we had the vote at the Sept. 5 mini (maybe Aug 29...cant remember). I was at 2 Sat. minis during the month of August and I know that vote day was announced both days. We had 28 players at that voting mini..plus at least 10 other people that showed up just to vote. I'm sorry if you weren't informed of the date Brandon...I felt like a resonable effort was made to get that information out but if it wasnt, my apologies.
Is that a backwards way to form a club? Sure is. I wanted to see if there were people willing to roll up their sleeves and work to get a club on its feet and moving....not just the handful that have done most everything around here for several years. I was pleased that Brandon was one of them. We have had 2 board meetings so far, and everything has been about club operations (mission statements, by-laws, mini formats, payouts, basket rotations, club plastic, etc.). Tonight, we will see which club logo wins, a vote that we felt was important enough to put before everyone. The Pres and VP are NOT nor ever will be the only ones making decisions. Membership votes for Board members, the Board votes on issues; any of which can and are encouraged to be brought to them by the membership.
The Board decided to get all the club formation stuff out of the way (mission statement, by-laws, club name and logo, etc.) before taking memberships. We felt that prospective members would take the club more seriously if all the formation stuff was out of the way and we were rolling along right from the beginning. Right or wrong, that was how we decided to move forward. So, at our formation meeting (Sept. 7), we discussed a mission statement and set of by-laws AT LENGTH, and we decided to put out a call for club logo ideas. At the Oct. 5 board meeting, we approved corrections to and finalized the mission statement and by-laws and we took the best 4 logos of the ones submitted and created a ballot for the would be membership to vote. Tonight, we will see the results and plan the memberhsip event. We want to get a new set of bag tags, maybe club stickers, possibly minis...all of that takes time. All of that, plus Thanksgiving and Christmas are coming up. And, the website is being re-done, with a planned launch of Jan. 1. We do have a 5 member board of a club that technically does not exsist right now. Jan. 1, 2010 is the logical choice to start taking memberships, and board members will be voted on annually after that.
I write all of this because it needs to be made public. I meant to post the minutes from the formation meeting and have yet to do so. I apologize for that. After tonight, we will have 2 approved meeting minutes and I will get them posted out at Cal Young. Its important to us for everyone to realize we are NOT doing things in secret. We aren't afraid to talk to anyone. All club documents will be posted on the new website and are available for request at any time until then.
Now to the ADGA and the Mr. Nice Guys Halloween glow round. No one can prove their side of the story, so its pointless to argue it...especially on a public message board. I will say that at no time did the ADGA (the 5 Board members) collectivly decide to boycott or encourage others to boycott this event. We put the flyer out at the course. We announced it at all the minis. Personally, I didnt like the way the whole thing came about, and I didnt want to push it with the wife...so I didnt go. Others have their own reasons. What was more disconcerting to me were the awards given out. 2 of the 7 players have come to me voicing their displeasure also. The relationship between the ADGA and Mr. Nice Guys will be discussed tonight.
All this mesage board speculating and rumormongoring would not be necessary if people with concerns would take the direct approach. None of the board members hide, none are hard to get a hold of, none will ever discourage anyone from presenting ideas or concerns or ANYTHING thats on their mind. Even though we dont have "members" right now, all the regulars are considered "members" until we officially get a membership role going. There is no "good 'ole boys" club. The club was started to avoid that very thing. Please bring concerns to us directly.
All this mesage board speculating and rumormongoring would not be necessary if people with concerns would take the direct approach. None of the board members hide, none are hard to get a hold of, none will ever discourage anyone from presenting ideas or concerns or ANYTHING thats on their mind. Even though we dont have "members" right now, all the regulars are considered "members" until we officially get a membership role going. There is no "good 'ole boys" club. The club was started to avoid that very thing. Please bring concerns to us directly.
This is something we push around here as well...but there will always be people who feel like they are being left out, or that the board is making decisions on their own or in secerate, ect. But elections are held and power is given to these people. If people are not happen with the current "power" the option to run and change things is always there.
While I agree there should be nothing to hide in a club...there are certain things that probably should be dealt with face to face, or even ask to be let speak at the next board meeting to voice your concerns.
I agree, if I think Jerry is a gay habitual mastobater, I should keep that informations to myself...not post that very private and very true info on this discusion board.
I'm new to Abilene disc golf, but I will say this...It really sounds like Burner has a massive case of sour grapes, and rather than acting like a man and talking his issues out with the people he has a problem with, he instead chooses to slander them. I think that's pretty sad, and bordering on pathetic. I'm sure that the people who are working on Cal Young wouldn't turn down the help if you came out to help. And I'm sure that if you had suggestions for tee pad placements at Will Hair (by the way, it's two words, not one, and there are two L's in it), and had voiced those suggestions appropriately to others, they would have been considered. It's just sad that you are attempting to ruin a group that appears to be trying to re-form and regroup into a successful club that everyone in Abilene can enjoy. So please, unless you plan to talk with board or make yourself useful, it might be best to keep your mouth shut.
I agree, if I think Jerry is a gay habitual mastobater, I should keep that informations to myself...not post that very private and very true info on this discusion board.
Exactly...if Donovan likes to blow goats, I should not post the pictures I have all over the internet. Those are HIS goats....no one elses.
I agree, if I think Jerry is a gay habitual mastobater, I should keep that informations to myself...not post that very private and very true info on this discusion board.
Exactly...if Donovan likes to blow goats, I should not post the pictures I have all over the internet. Those are HIS goats....no one elses.
Welcome to discgolf and to the CVDGA DISCussion board!!!
If you are ever down this way on a Saturday we have a womens only mini going at 10am. It's free to play in. You'll have to check the thread for the location as they change it up on occasion.
HOLD ON A MINUTE!!!!! What where we talking about? It started off as an Abilene disc golf thread, then went into a ADGA bashing, then how the CVDGA is ran, then a new lady discgolfer, and then something about a mastobater and goats. Lets get back to the point. Jerry is a gay mastobater and that's that!!!!
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